LOL! This windows senior programmer, 20 years of experience, tells me he does know the mac as well. Doesn't seem to know OSX though, so I tell him about the BSD nature of it and show him some quicktimes of the interface (I don't own a mac). After some seconds of unreal silence, he says: "How the hell can they do that using a Motorola 68000?!?" [Cristian Vidmar: CRISTIAN VIDMAR: M y P u b l i c W e b l o g]